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城市模型的回顾与展望——访谈Michael Batty(上)

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2015-08-17

I=采访者

刘伦  剑桥大学土地经济系博士研究生



龙瀛  北京市城市规划设计研究院高级工程师,城市规划工学博士,剑桥大学国家公派访问学者

 


B=Mike Batty 

英国皇家科学院院士,英国伦敦大学学院(UCL)巴特莱特规划学院教授

高级空间分析中心(Centre for Advanced SpatialAnalysis)主任

 


I: Your new book is titled as the “new” science of cities. Which “old” science is it compared with? Can we put it this way, that the academia has made a substantial amount of achievements in urban complexity and network research to give impetus to a “new science”?

您的新书题为城市科学,这个科学是与什么科学相对应的?我们是否可以这样认为,学术界在城市复杂性研究方面已经取得了相当多的成果,以催生一门的科学?

 

B: It’s a good question. One thing which I say in the book is that there is not just one new science. There are many new sciences of the city. And the reason why I call it “the new science” is because many of the techniques and tools are relatively new, compared to the older science. The older science was related to urban economics, social physics, central place theory, transportation-type theory, etc. In other words, the old science was what was loosely called “regional science”. And it was based on much more static and cross-sectional view of cities, which takes city as a system; while the newer science is based on the idea of evolving cities and complexity theory. To some extent, a way of talking about the new science is to say all of the new tools and techniques, which have come over the last twenty to twenty-five years, and it is related to complexity theory. So there are many different dimensions in which we can characterize the new science, such as disaggregation, bottom-up thinking, evolution and so on.

这是一个好问题。我在书中也提到,并非只存在一门关于城市的新科学,而是存在多门这样的科学。我称其为

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